• Discover the remarkable journey of Dude Perfect through co-founder Coby Cotton’s eyes, from a backyard basketball trick shot to a global entertainment empire. Hosts Justin Forman and Dana Roefer explore how parents can recognize and nurture entrepreneurial seeds in their children, especially in the “imaginative” ones who might be breaking all the rules.

  Learn why that negotiating 12-year-old, or rule-breaking 11-year-old, might actually be showing early entrepreneurial traits, and how to channel those qualities positively. Coby shares vulnerable moments from Dude Perfect’s journey, including the breaking point where they had to choose between stable jobs and an uncertain YouTube future.

00:00 Introduction
00:37 Behind the scenes at Dude Perfect headquarters
03:29 The origin story: From Jimmy John’s bet to viral video
07:06 Good Morning America calls at 5:30 AM
10:22 The breaking point: Choosing YouTube over stable careers
12:16 Faith as the underlying principle
14:02 Managing conflict and keeping short accounts
17:14 Recognizing entrepreneurial seeds in children
21:30 The Squishmallow story: Finding creativity in rule-breaking
25:34 Parenting the “messy” entrepreneurial child
28:00 Adaptability as a key entrepreneurial skill
32:13 Why these conversations can’t wait
37:34 The importance of affirmation at home

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• In this powerful episode of the Faith Driven Entrepreneur podcast, hosts Justin Forman and Kevin Kim sit down with Chi-Ming and Juliette Chien to explore their radical decision to relocate their successful tech company from San Francisco’s financial district to Bayview – a neighborhood where 25-30% of children live below the federal poverty line.

  Chi-Ming shares how Dayspring Technologies embodies “bearing witness to God’s redeeming of the workplace, marketplace, and community” through unconventional business practices like refusing to use leverage in negotiations, maintaining only three months of cash reserves, and implementing a pay structure where CEO compensation is capped at 3x the lowest paid employee.

  Juliette reveals how their partnership with Redeemer Community Church led to the founding of RISE, a Christian high school where 80% of seats are reserved for first-generation college students from low-income families, with a mission of 100% four-year university admission.

00:00 Introduction – Video podcasting debut

02:10 Kevin Kim’s history with faith and work movement

08:00 Dayspring video story begins

15:30 Moving from Financial District to Bayview

19:00 “This is a crazy idea, right?”

22:45 Chi-Ming’s sabbatical walks in the neighborhood

26:00 Why place matters for gospel witness

31:00 The unexpected unanimous “yes” to relocating

35:30 Client reactions: “The taxi driver said don’t come back”

39:00 Dayspring’s radical business practices

42:00 No leverage policy – following Jesus’ teachings

45:15 Three months cash reserves only

48:00 Isaiah 40 pay structure – mountains brought low

52:00 CEO pay capped at 3x lowest employee

56:00 The birth of RISE from “prophetic emptiness”

59:30 Juliette’s vision for educational transformation

63:00 80% seats for first-generation, low-income students

66:45 The power of love overcoming educational disparity

70:00 Three-year-old Jeremy and kingdom partnership

73:00 Final thoughts on church-business collaboration

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